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MC909

Postby aizo on Mon May 19, 2008 7:11 pm

Much different beast from Electribe. They both have their drawbacks but compliment each other well. I'm a fan of Roland much more than Korg but have owned more Korg products. Well, it's about even now.

Anyhoot, the MC909 is fun to use becuase it has several ways of doing the same thing. which is pretty useful. Mostly I use software for synths so my MC909 is my loop and drummachine.
It has 16 tracks that I can either apply an individual drum to each track. Then use common effects.
OR.....I can put all the drums on ONE track and have some bitch'n Fx's right at my finger tips without having to program. Like filters and Asdr dedicated knobs. I have only had it for about 5 months so I have only scratched the surface.
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Re: MC909

Postby Borg on Wed May 21, 2008 3:08 pm

Interesting! Is it a relatively new box? What about a review? Would be fun to hear about other grooveboxes able to challenge the x-tribes. :)
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Re: MC909

Postby StellarJay[aka Ruso] on Wed May 21, 2008 6:07 pm

there are several...

Roland Mc808
http://www.rolandus.com/products/produc ... jectId=766

Mc 909
http://www.rolandus.com/products/produc ... jectId=474

MV8800 although designed as a production sampler, it is a very good groovebox for live gigs.
Although the price tag is BIG.
http://www.rolandus.com/products/produc ... jectId=848

Monomachine
http://www.monomachine.com/

MachineDrum
http://www.machinedrum.com/

Forthcoming Linndrum II analogue
http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products ... ndex.shtml

Roland SP404(Which kind of sucks)

Akai samplers(I don't like them at all)
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Re: MC909

Postby Stilo on Thu May 22, 2008 11:01 am

Ruso wrote:Akai samplers(I don't like them at all)

:lol:

Why?
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Re: MC909

Postby StellarJay[aka Ruso] on Thu May 22, 2008 12:47 pm

I hate the screen, I hate the interface, the onboard controlls are shitty. The screen is ugly and the screen menus require too many steps to get stuff done...

the roland mv8800 posted above is the same thing but everything the I just mentioned that I hate is actually very good on it.
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Re: MC909

Postby Borg on Fri May 23, 2008 5:57 am

yeah, regarding the mv8800, I'd say it's a porta studio more than just a simple groovebox. For me that'd be an enormous overkill.


EDIT: Oh, and how "live-able" is the mc-series (808 & 909)?
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Re: MC909

Postby aizo on Tue May 27, 2008 7:02 am

haven't really got too deep into using my 909 yet. i only recently bought live about 2 months ago.
im coing from a way different program and im trying to figure out how to play my songs live instead of pushing play in itunes. ha! i know a guy who is really awesome with a 909. edison gem... look them up on myspace. and as far as the elctribes and live look at tonikom on myspace. that girls is bad ass. all she uses is live and an esx. i think she uses 2 esx's now
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Re: MC909

Postby TrondC on Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:46 pm

well, I got the mc808 as it was 60% off at a blowout christmas sale in a local store, and it's pretty good. 128 voices of polyphony and 9 poly realtime sequencers + 7 drumkit sequencers (maning you can have 9 synths and 7 drumkits (not single hits like the tribes), playing at the same time. pretty massive. it also has capacity for storing like 900 patterns straight out of the box, and there are huge expanding capabilities with bothe onboard memory and CF cards (up to 1GB I think, hello Korg, please take notice here and ditch the smartmedia cards next time yes?)
The 808 has 8 siders that can be programmed in a similar way to the motion sequence function of the tribes, but the actual faders are motorizer, so if you like, they'll pop into their designated place when you open a pattern, thus avoiding sudden changes in volume/filer etc like I get on the tribes sometimes.

oh and it samples too

So, why on earth would I keep my ESX? To tell the truth, impressive specs and all, the 808 isn't all that to me. It's a much much steeper learning curve to do anything more advanced than hit record and play, the effects section is very clumsy compared to my ESX, and TR-style editing (simply assigning, say a bassdrum, to steps 1-5-9-13 for a 4x4 beat, etc) after you've recorded is something I still haven't manage to master.

oh and it doesn't output bass very well. even with 4 Oberheim samples stacked, the simple EA got more fat to its bass. tribes will always win here.

So, as a poly sequencer it is a fantastic live tool, as you can sequence as many pads, leads, basses, efx etc as you can imagine to keep your hands free, and it's got potential to use a million sounds, but still, I'd keep my ESX hands down if I had to choose between the two.
very sad to see that the 808 with all it's power and features that would take 20 x-tribes to re-create just doesn't cut it due to it's clumsy programming interface, total lack of knobs and as a result, it's not a spontaneous fun machine like the tribes. I guess in the right hands (in a professional studio), the thing will probably take the tribes place rather easily, but for the average musician, it's just not fun to use, and i've screamed "wtf's going on now?" more times with this than with all my other gear combined..

..but then again, it IS a fantastic poly sequencer, and I know part of my disliking it is due to my own lack of patience and dedication to really, really learn the machine. I'm keeping mine, as I'm a sucker for layering pads and use up tons of polyphony, and obviously, I'd need 10 extra hands to do that all realtime live, so for that very reason alone, it stays.

oh almost forgot: the MC808 and ESX go very well together, and they tend to be brilliant in whatever the other isn't briliant at ;) the two make up the base for my music.
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Re: MC909

Postby TrondC on Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:32 am

just a second thought on the MC808.

now that it's sold and gone (A Monomachine in it's place), I'm really starting to miss certain things the 808 actually did a lot better than my current machines, especially the polyphony..
I'd like to see a stripped down version of the 808, ditch the sample ability, half the size, an 128 note poly is more than I ever used (and I layered chords a LOT), so 64 should be more than enough, and simplify the sequencer a bit (it was very deep, but took forever to edit) and sell at $500 new, 400 street. I'd buy that in a heartbeat, simply because as a poly sequencer with tons of usabel onboard sunds, the 808 was rockin! if things were different (read: if I had more space, and didn't know about the Elektron gear), I'd keep the 808 and use it for live shows.. choices choices...
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Re: MC909

Postby koczango on Fri May 11, 2012 3:47 am

Hallo
A friend of mine has mc 909, and he claims, that it is not possible to arrange drum patterns on the fly (while it's playing). Is it really so or is he missing that feature? We are jamming together so it is important to rearange patterns live. I suppose that mc should be able to do that, maby someone could help. Thanks, and sorry for my english.
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